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 Message 409 of 3959
03 March 2009 at 1:30pm | IP Logged 
NL: Zo kan ik dus weer het Deens bestuderen. Leuk! Trouwens heb ik jouw post "About an experiment with learning styles" wel gelezen, maar het heeft mij inhoudelijk niet aangesproken. Dat gebeurt bijna nooit, dat ik een post van jou niet interesant vind, maar in dit geval is dat zo. Dus dan kijk ik uit naar deze kleine dosis Deens voor morgenavond (want vanavond heb ik werkgroep Turks). Nu ben ik natuurlijk aan het werk, dus daar mag ik me niet te zeer afleiden.

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PS: I think it's because a scientific discussion of theories is involved as I am now more interested in astronomy (and paleontology).

Ik zie al dat jouw post nu in discussie gaat. Ikzelf heb nog wat paleontologie te lezen, want ik heb gezondheidsproblemen gehad vorige week, dus zodoende heb ik met mijn eigen studieplannen vertraging opgelopen.

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 Message 410 of 3959
03 March 2009 at 8:43pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
Jeg fik ikke gjort meget ved mine sprog i går,
I got not done much with my languages in yesterday,

for jeg brugte det meste af tiden på at læse om læringsstile,
for I used det most of timeThe on to read about learnings styles.

som jeg også skrev om under de generelle emner: "About an experiment with learning styles",
which I also wrote about under the general subjects,

men uden at det vakte den store interesse.
but without that it avoke the big interest.

Jeg synes ellers at det er væsentligt nok at lærerne i en hel by skal lære om dette emne,
I mean otherwise that it is important enough that teachersThe in a whole town shall learn about this subject,

og ikke mindst at diverse eksperter og fagforeningsfolk forsøger at sabotere eksperimentet,
and not least that diverse (=several) experts and tradeunionpeople try to sabotere experimentThe,

men emnet vakte ikke den store interesse - nul svar.
but subjectThe avoked not the big interest - zero answers

Om aftenen, da jeg skulle til at skrive mit sædvanlige indlæg i loggen, strejkede min internetforbindelse,
In eveningThe, when I should to to write my usual contribution in logThe, striked (=went on strike) my internet connection,

men jeg har faktisk brugt adskillige timer i aftes på at studere min bulgarske grammatik.
but I have factually used several hours in evening's (=last evening) on to study my Bulgarian grammar.

Meget kendte jeg fra russisk (især ordene), men meget deles også med andre balkansprog,
Much knew I from Russian (inparticular wordsThe), but much sharedIs also with other Balkanlanguages,

- det skriver jeg nok mere om senere. Møgdag. Forhåbentlig får jeg lavet mere i dag.
- that writes I probably more about later. Muckday. Hopefully get I made more in day (=today).


NL: Dit wordt iets voor de bieb op woensdag- en donderdagavond, ik wil daar nog nabewerkingen van mijn telefooncalls maken en en dan zal er zeker nog tijd overblijven om dit ook nog te bestuderen. Af sted!!!

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Edited by Fasulye on 04 March 2009 at 6:30am

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 Message 411 of 3959
03 March 2009 at 9:02pm | IP Logged 
LAT: Ephemeridem Alcuini ut solet hodie lexi ut peritias meas latine legendae augeam. Lexi inter alia quod Tribunalis Iustitiae Internationalis Hagensis inter Dacoromanian et Ucrainam contentionem solvit declarans insulam parvulam 'De Serpentibus' nominata ad Ucraina appartinere. Insulem non cognoscebam, sed nomen Dacoromania videns obstupui quia nomen vetus romanorum 'Dacia' fuit, et hodie natio iste modo sub nomine 'Romania' (aut forma aequivalenti) nota est. Etiam didicit A.Lincoln primus praeses US-americanus esse qui manu dextera Bibliam attingens jurabat sibi officio praesidentis Civitatum Unitarum fideliter functurum esse. In spatio satellitus US-Americanus cum satellito Russo collisus est, et sir Allen Stanford - suspicatus defraudationis octo miliardorum dolariorum - evasus est. Numquam cum Ephemerida molestus sum. Hodie tamen non multo de scientiis videtur.

Platt: Mien lektuur vundaag weer nich de islendisch böök, aver "Wiehnachts-Stress" vön Gerd Spiekermann, - un segg nich dat dit nich op tiid is, hier in März. Aver de klender sall mich nich diktieren, wann ick miene bööker lies. Man der Spiekermann het mich een putz speelt: ick heff 'n lüüt Vertellen leest, met een Mannsminsch der mookt luude Musiek in sien Auto ... Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away ... "Wat?" Dor up de Berm dor weer doch wat .. Suddenly... (BONK) Nee szeen, kleen jung segt: "Du hest mien Süster umföhrt":. "Dat is nich wohr, se is mi in't Auto lopen"Weer kleen jung: "Du hest ehr umföört".... Nee szeen, "Wir müssen röntgen..", De Jung: "Du hest mien Süster umföhrt" Why she had to go .. "Wo sünd denn Dien Öllern?"... Oh, I believe in yesterday. "Twee Glas beer, dat is doch nich toveel...". Nee szeen: De ole Fru kümmt. Se begrippt nix. De jung wiest mit'n Finger op mi: "Du hest mien Süster umföhrt" Oma wies em trecht."Disse Mann hett uns hier no Krankenhuus föhrt, Jung, de hett kien Schuld." "Du hest mien Süster umföhrt" "Jung!". .. There is a shadow hanging over me..."Goot, denn komm ick even 'n viddel Stunn loter no huus. Oh, I believe in yesterday. "Geiht doch nix över een goot Musikprogram in't Radio...Volle hammer
Also, HERRN Spiekermann, dat künnst d'mich nich aandoon!!!! Hier sit ick mööd in de Bus terug van mien job un will blots wat eenfaches, frohes un begööschend lesen, un dann geefst du mich so wat? Wenn ick en Nervenfratzer lesen mag do lehn ick mich doch een harte Krimi oder Grusel oder Dostojevskij op de biblioteek, man nich een Sammenln vün Wiehnachtsvertellen. Aver dann bims bums dann geefst du mich so wat gruseliges? Wie kannst'du mich dat aandoon?? Also, lieve Gerd Spiekermann, ween du dich nich benimmst dann fliegst du weer trüch op'n Riech, is dat kloor? Verstanden?

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I have once again had the pleasure of reading the Latin newspaper Ephemeris, with stories about the international Court in the Hague that has ruled that a small island in the Black sea belongs rightfully to Ukraine and not to Romania, - and I ask myself why the name of the latter is given as "Dacoromania". It was "Dacia" at Trajan's time and "Romania" or something similar in all modern languages, so why...? Besides I read about Obama's oath, where it is stated that Lincoln invented the thing about swearing with your hand on the bible. Also about a couple of colliding satellites (well what did you expect? - with so much junk up there?) and something about an eloped fradulous billionaire named Stanford. But not much about science this time.

And then a terrible tale: I was sitting in the bus back home from work, reading - somewhat belatedly, I confess - a collection of Christmas stories or rather essays in Low German by a certain Gerd Spiekermann. Then suddenly a small history about a man that likes to listen to music in his car (and who has had a couple of beers too much). He knocks a small girl down. Scheisse! "You have run my sister down", says her brother (a small boy). OK, next scene - in the hospital. "You have run my sister down". Enter a poor old clueless woman, it's the grandma who looks after the children. "You have run my sister down". Child gets scolded for saying bad things about the nice man who brought sis to the hospital. "You have run my sister down". "Child!!" .. The nice man wonders whether he can get back home before midnight, and yes - he is allowed to leave. Back into the car, the music turned way up and off he is. Happy man, justice in action or what. And then I sit there in the bus with my adrenalin level so high that the stuff dripples out of my ears and my peace of mind is totally shattered. If I had wanted that to happen I wouldn't have bought a collection of Christmas tales with a thick red man on the cover, I would have borrowed a thriller or some horror or Dostoyevsky at the local library, and then I would have known beforehand what I was in for. But not with an innocent collection of Christmas tales. So dear Mr. Spiekerman, either you behave in the future or you will be kicked back unto the book shelf, and there you can gather dust until Hell freezes over and the Moon gets seven tartan-coloured corners.. VERSTANDEN ??

Edited by Iversen on 11 March 2009 at 12:36pm

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 Message 412 of 3959
03 March 2009 at 9:22pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
Platt: Mien lektuur vundaag weer nich de islendisch böök, aver "Wiehnachts-Stress" vön Gerd Spiekermann, - un segg nich dat dit nich op tiid is, hier in März. Aver de klender sall mich nich diktieren, wann ick miene bööker lies. Man der Spiekermann het mich een putz speelt: ick heff 'n lüüt Vertellen leest, met een Mannsminsch der mookt luude Musiek in sien Auto ... Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away ... "Wat?" Dor up de Berm dor weer doch wat .. Suddenly... (BONK) Nee szeen, kleen jung segt: "Du hest mien Süster umföhrt":. "Dat is nich wohr, se is mi in't Auto lopen"Weer kleen jung: "Du hest ehr umföört".... Nee szeen, "Wir müssen röntgen..", De Jung: "Du hest mien Süster umföhrt" Why she had to go .. "Wo sünd denn Dien Öllern?"... Oh, I believe in yesterday. "Twee Glas beer, dat is doch nich toveel...". Nee szeen: De ole Fru kümmt. Se begrippt nix. De jung wiest mit'n Finger op mi: "Du hest mien Süster umföhrt" Oma wies em trecht."Disse Mann hett uns hier no Krankenhuus föhrt, Jung, de hett kien Schuld." "Du hest mien Süster umföhrt" "Jung!". .. There is a shadow hanging over me..."Goot, denn komm ick even 'n viddel Stunn loter no huus. Oh, I believe in yesterday. "Geiht doch nix över een goot Musikprogram in't Radio...Volle hammer
Also, HERRN Spiekermann, dat künnst d'mich nich aandoon!!!! Hier sit ick mööd in de Bus terug van mien job un will blots wat eenfaches, frohes un begööschend lesen, un dann geefst du mich so wat? Wenn ick en Nervenfratzer lesen mag do lehn ick mich doch een harte Krimi oder Grusel oder Dostojevskij op de biblioteek, man nich een Sammenln vün Wiehnachtsvertellen. Aver dann bims bums dann geefst du mich so wat gruseliges? Wie kannst'du mich dat aandoon?? Also, lieve Gerd Spiekermann, ween du dich nich benimmst dann flieg du weer trüch op'n Riech, is dat kloor? Verstanden? I]


NL: Grappig om te lezen, zoiets! Ik heb duidelijk het gevoel dat ik een paar van die uitdrukkingen in mijn jeugd gehoord heb, maar mijn grootouders uit Rendsburg zijn in de jaren 80 overleden. Daarna ben ik ook nooit meer in Schleswig-Holstein geweest.Mijn grootouders hebben voor zover ik het weet niet met elkaar Platt gesproken en met mij sowieso alleen Hochdeutsch, maar in hun Hochdeutsch kwamen veel van die uitdrukkingen voor, die, zoals ik nu kan verificeren, Plattdüütsch zijn.

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Edited by Fasulye on 04 March 2009 at 8:35am

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 Message 413 of 3959
04 March 2009 at 4:50am | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
Besides I read about Obama's oath, where it is stated that Lincoln
invented the thing about swearing with your hand on the bible.


I don't think this is true, since Washington was also sworn in on a Bible. In America
it's pretty standard practice to swear on the Bible that it would seem odd not
to...

Obama did use Lincoln's Bible, though, for his first swearing in (the second "redo"
was without a Bible).
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 Message 414 of 3959
04 March 2009 at 9:18am | IP Logged 
Culpa mea - Lincoln wasn't the first president to use a Bible at the ceremony, but as Recht writes Obama used Lincoln's Bible at his own inauguration ceremony:

"His verbis dictis, Baracus Obama novus praesidens USAe factus est, manu dextera attingens eadem Biblia sacra, quibus olim Abraham Lincoln usus erat."

Literal translation: (By) having said these words B.O. has been made the new president of USA, his right hand touching that sacred Bible which Abraham Lincoln once used.



Edited by Iversen on 04 March 2009 at 4:34pm

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 Message 415 of 3959
04 March 2009 at 6:11pm | IP Logged 
DANSK NR.1

IT: Oggi ho avuto un po' di tempo per fare un primo esercizio di danese. Ho letto una traduzione danese - inglese di Iversen e ho comminciato un nuovo cuaderno per i vocaboli danesi. Del testo di Iversen ho copiato 35 parole importanti come per esempio:

(Perdone, scrivo senza Lexilogos qui nella biblioteca!)

jeg = I
ikke = not
meget = much
med = with (edit!)
sprog = language(s)
meste = most
tiden = time
pa (with accent) = on
laese = read
om = about
ogsa (with accent) = also
emne = subject
men = but
uden = without
at = that
store = big
by = town
ellers = otherwise
og = and
forsoger (with accent) = try
svar = answer
sager = things
noget = some
af = from
fra = from

EN: As everyone can see, these are keywords, which can be found in every Danish text many times, so I should know them by heart to aquire a passive reading ability of Danish texts. In the future I will extract more of such important words and collect them in my new Danish vocabulary book.

As Danish is a mere "side activity" for me and no official study project, this small dosis of Danish is enough for me right now.

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Edited by Fasulye on 05 March 2009 at 9:01am

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One correction: "with" may etymologically be related to "ved", but the meaning of "ved" is either spatial, something like "at" ("ved huset"="at the house"), or it is used in expressions like "ved hjælp af", "ved at gøre noget" ("with the help of/by").

If you use "with" to imply following something or bringing something, then the proper Danish translation is generally "med". "Jeg har maden med" = I bring the food.


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