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 Message 3009 of 3959
26 August 2012 at 6:43pm | IP Logged 
Could the Scotsman have been (Professor) Iain Stewart by any chance? His main discipline
is geology.




(One of the more effective and less egotistical popularisers of science on UKTV these
days).
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 Message 3010 of 3959
27 August 2012 at 12:42am | IP Logged 
It could be him - but I don't have a TV program that goes back in time (I throw out my newspapers when I have read them, otherwise I could have checked it there).

Apart from that I have spent the whole day on some changes in the clickable maps in my photo collection system. And I have listened to music and to QI instead of foreign sources, so there isn't much to write about today.

EDIT: is was him - I found the program on Youtube .. part 1,2 and 3 "How to grow a planet"

Edited by Iversen on 27 August 2012 at 6:03pm

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 Message 3011 of 3959
27 August 2012 at 10:01pm | IP Logged 
GR:
Η μητέρα μου και η αδελφή μου επισκέφτηκε την Κρήτη το περασμένο έτος, και επισκέφθηκε μια παραλία που ονομάζεται Ελαφονήσι. Όταν είδα τυχαία ένα βίντεο στο Youtube για το Ελαφονήσι, αυτόατο με εξέπληξε, γιατί δε μπορούσε να πολλά να πει σε μια τυχαία παραλίαα. Αλλά υπάρχει και μια άλλη τοποθεσία του ίδιου ονόματος από την Πελοπόννησο, και είναι εξαιρετικά ενδιαφέρουσα, γιατί εδώ είναι μια πλημμυρισμένη πόλη που σήμερα ονομάζεται Παυλοπέτρι (η αρχαία Λακωνίας). Το βίντεο είναι στα αγγλικά, αλλά με ελληνικές υπότιτλους, αν και είναι δύσκολο να τους διαβαστούν. Υπάρχουν, βεβαίως, σε ένα άρθρο στο Βικιπαίδει. Υπάρχει ένα άρθρο στην ελληνική γλώσσα σε Pyles.tv, αλλά το βίντεο του είναι στην αγγλική γλώσσα. Youtube έχει επίσης και βίντεοι (?) στα ελληνικά, και ορισμένες από αυτές είναι μακρόχρονες. Όταν τελειώσω με την γραφή αυτή, θέλω να δω ένα και βίντεο για τον Αλέξανδρο ο Μεγάς - στην ελληνική γλώσσα. Αλλά αρκετά δεν καταλαβαίνω το παν.

My mother and my sister visited Crete last year, and among other places they visited a beach named Elafonissi. I was slightly surprised when I hit upon a 58min long video about Elafonissi on Youtube - how can you spend so much time on a beach?? - but it turned out to be another Elafonissi, one near Southern Laconia (a part of Peloponissos), and this place is interesting indeed because a 5000 years old submerged city Pavlopetri has been found right outside it in the sea. It was discovered in 1967, and for an amateur like me there wasn't much to see on the seafloor - but the archeologists who study the site are extatic because nobody have lived on top of the old ruins for 3000 years. Greece is very active geologically, and the whole town could in principle have sunk during one cataclysmic event, but the evidence points to at least three separate events, with the first around 1000 BC. Actually I have seen a parallel case, namely the town Napier in New Zealand, which suddenly sank below the sea level in the year 1931 during an earthquake. The modern town there is constructed at the new shoreline, and it is built entirely in Art Deco style.

The video about Pavlopetri is made by BBC and spoken entirely in English, but on Youtube it is shown with undertitles. I have however found a number of other videos in Greek at Youtube, and when I have finished writing this I'll watch a long video in Greek about Alexander the Great - but I doubt that I'll be able to understand all 117 minutes of it.

PS: I started it now, and it spoken clearly and not too fast. Excellent listening exercise!


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 Message 3012 of 3959
28 August 2012 at 10:40am | IP Logged 
Είδα ότι το πρόγραμμα στα ελληνικά για τον Αλέξανδρο, και όπως αναμενόταν κατάλαβα μόλις το μισό από αυτό - αλλά αν ληφθεί υπόψη ότι αυτή ήταν η πρώτη φορά μετά από μήνες οτι άκουσα την ομιλούμενη ελληνικά, δεν μπορώ να παραπονεθώ. Η ανάγνωση είναι πολύ πιο εύκολο για εμένα.

I watched that video about Alexander yesterday evening, and as expected I understood barely half of it - but given that I haven'¨t listened to any spoken Greek for months I can't complain. I'm much more comfortable with written Greek, but at least I have found a place where there is some relevant content in Greek - Youtube. You just have to use Greek letters in your search, then you are taken directly to the goodies.


Edited by Iversen on 11 October 2012 at 4:37pm

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 Message 3013 of 3959
28 August 2012 at 7:03pm | IP Logged 
BA I: Membaca materi di bus rumah saat ini adalah tata bahasa Belanda, tapi hari ini saya membaca sebuah artikel tentang suku Tanah Toraja yang saya temukan di tas saya.

SCO: Ah feckly leart Scots by hearkenin o the cantie blethering o Billy Connolly (here in a mair sairious tift). Atweeen ah heard ither people speak the Scots leed, like mister Fry frae QI, here spakin o fried "deep-fried pork sausage kebab" or the rock professor wha telled aboot auld plants (see abuin) ... but the day ah'm sittin here an listenin to a course in Glaswegian an that stuff is real haurd tae unnerstaund. Didya knoo wit "tummel-tootra" means? Ah didnae, but it turns oot that it is "tumbled out o" wilk kythed intae "tummel-tootra" in Glasgooo. Ahm juist a wee bit dissied that it isnae langer - yon 5.46 minits isnae much fair tae learn a hail langage, but luckily tis but ane pairt o a mairpairt grand scheme. Hark tae this speirins into fitbaw-orieented ferrin wirds in modren Scots.   

EN+SCO: By the way, I did an excursion today as part of my job obligations. On the way back to the office a man recognized me in the bus. It turned out that he remembered my surrealistic paintings which I produced from the late 60s till the mid 90s. And then it struck me that ah could bruik thaim in new videos fair youtube, and I could even combine many of them with ferrin leeds an git a scag fair tae blabber in ither langages. Actually I have mentioned (and even shown) some of them in this all-encompassing log (from July 9 2009 and onwards), but writing anything here is like seein it mizzle doon a black hole ayont the event horizon of ony livin sowel.

(Do I really need to translate this?)

Edited by Iversen on 29 August 2012 at 1:17am

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 Message 3014 of 3959
29 August 2012 at 12:21pm | IP Logged 
IT: Ho trovate una serie di video su Youtube chi presentano gli interpreti della Unione Europea in diverse lingue - in questo momento sto ascoltando il video in italiano. Io sono contento di non dovere guadagnare il mio salario in uno dei settore più stressanti che si possa immaginare, ma è interessante vedere alcuni di coloro che hanno accettato questo lavoro - e vedere quante e quali lingue con cui lavorano. Ascoltare a politici per tutto il giorno non mi tenta per niente, e dovere tradurre i loro discorsi vaganti con fidelità dev'essere pura tortura. Sono contento che qualcuno prenda questo lavoro ingrato.

Among all the other good things at Youtube I have found a series of videos about the interpreters of EU, first I listened to the Italian version and now the Spanish one, and it seems that there are videos also in English ("Interpreting for Europe ... into English), German and French. So far I haven't seen any in other languages, but it would be logical to make them.

You need to have a university degree and understand at least three languages very well (and you should know your own language extremely well). And the videos stress that you also have to learn some techniques - but for me the most scary thing must be to have to listen to the rambling babble of politicians all day long without getting sick. Now I'm in the middle of the English video and the most surprising statement so far is that there is a severe lack of interpreters with English as their mother tongue. I would have expected that it would be more difficult to find a Maltese or Latvian interpreter who understood Irish or Danish or Finnish or Greek perfectly.

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 Message 3015 of 3959
29 August 2012 at 8:32pm | IP Logged 
I'm impressed (and amused) by the Scots in the last-but-one post, but (and I'm nothing
but a puir wee Sassenach), but is "telled" definitely correct? I seem to remember
hearing it (and maybe reading it) as "tellt", i.e. with distinctly hard "t" sound at
the end. But my source(s) may have been unreliable!




BTW, do you notice much Scandinavian influence in lowland Scots (as opposed to in
English, or even as opposed to the more regular Scottish version of English which the
majority probably speak north of the border?)




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 Message 3016 of 3959
29 August 2012 at 8:44pm | IP Logged 
I think the Scandinavian influence is limited to a few words like "kirk" and "bairn". The main focus of the vikings were around York (alias "Jorvik"), as far as I know.

You may be right about "telled", but when I'm in doubt (or just want to learn new words and expressions) I use the Online Scots Dictionary, and there both variants are mentioned:

tell [tɛl]
v. To tell. To repeat, say by heart, recite. Of verse: to scan correctly, to fit the metre, to rhyme, to keep time in music.
pt. pp. telt, telled, tauld [tɑ:l(d), tɔ:l(d), N. I. ta:l(d), U. tʌul(d)] Told.
n. Word, report, account.



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