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 Message 1561 of 3959
11 December 2009 at 4:31pm | IP Logged 
Your virus computer infection, that's very bad luck and causes a lot of extra work. You have the advantage that you are qualified to repair such a virus infection by yourself. I would be helpless in such a situation, but so far my computers have never got infected. My anti-virus protection (before: Norton Antivirus, now: AntiVir) works excellently and I hardly surf on unknown websites.

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Edited by Fasulye on 11 December 2009 at 4:32pm

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 Message 1562 of 3959
11 December 2009 at 5:26pm | IP Logged 
Some of these trojans and viruses now are downright nasty. The Malwarebytes Anti-Malware application is a good one, but even so, I had a terrible time a few weeks ago with something called "Anti-virus Pro 2010" that took repeated scannings with Malwarebytes and other scanners to eliminate. It took me about a week and many hours. I wish you luck and that you got all of it.

I think mine was a rootkit from what I read about it and because it kept forcing reboots when it would download, and as long as you had an active internet connection, it would keep trying to re-install itself. Not only that, but it would specifically target and disable Malwarebytes Anti-Malware!

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 Message 1563 of 3959
12 December 2009 at 6:56pm | IP Logged 
I am glad that I knew something about viruses beforehand, and maybe that also saved me from worse things this time. I was surfing on some Russian pages which I can't completely understand on the fly, so maybe that's why I caught this infection. But these days you can't trust anything, unless you have a solid Antivirusprogram running (and there are even some preteneded antivirusproducts around which themselves are malware).

I first got suspicious because I was asked to install some kind of viewer, and then I closed Explorer down with ALT-CTRL-DELETE. Then I got a warning from AVG about infected files. I let it remove one, but it couldn't remove no. 2. I then checked the joblist and found some items that I didn't know, and I closed them down and started writing - but I couldn't write accented letters, as I have mentioned above, and for me that spelled rootkit because of my previous experience. I tried to manually remove everything within sight, but when I restarted all the evil spirits were around again. For instance I got some new warnings against infected files, and I could see that at least one suspicious item had restarted by itself. Then I simply pulled the plug to the computer and restarted it in 'safe mode'. Here I made a thorough manual cleaning of the registry (and you should NOT do that if you don't know what you are doing!). Then I rebooted in safe mode with network and made some searches on the items I had identified, and I saw some credible references to Malwarebytes, whose software I downloaded - though in the free version, because making payments over the net is taboo when you have a virus.

I made a full scan with AVG, but it didn't find anything - which in itself is a symptom of a root kit. I installed the Malwarebytes kit and let it scan the computer, and it found and removed 20 threats of different kinds. After that I restarted in normal mode, scanned with just about anything I could think of, restarted my firewall (!) and since then -fingers crossed! - I haven't seen any symptoms of anything. But it was something of a scare, and I still don't trust that everything is cured.

I'll return later to write something about today's language learning activities.



Edited by Iversen on 12 December 2009 at 7:00pm

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 Message 1564 of 3959
12 December 2009 at 7:35pm | IP Logged 
Have you tried Spyware Terminator? It asks for your permission before each and every process is allowed to run (it remembers your choices so don't have to authorize programs over again). It is excellent because it lets you know if any unknown and unexpected process is attempting to run while you're browsing the internet.
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 Message 1565 of 3959
12 December 2009 at 9:08pm | IP Logged 
I'll take the time to study Spyware Terminator on the internet, but it sounds like an interesting concept.

But now back to languages.

Platt: Ik heff nülich veel Tiet mit 't Platt verbrocht wegen de Froog vun JW vun die ölle Doom die sien Vater Unser in Platt sprook. Wie ik schreven heff hat de Platte Wikipedia besloten de Sass Schrivwies te bruken - un een Standard is nautwennig vöör so een Institution un vöör 't Platt generell (ok wenn ik de Standard noch nich ganz geleer heff). Aver 't gefft vele nedderdüütschen Dialekten, seh t.B. de Wikipedia sien list.

OP de Internetsiet www.deutsch-plattdeutsch.de geeft's een grote Sammeln vun Sprickwöör. Nich öll sünd politisch korrekt, un besünners de Damen können sik seker mit veles nich tofräden sien:

"Allens lichten!" see de Schipper, dor smeet he sien Fru över Bord.
(Hooch: "Alles leichtern!" sagte der Schiffer, da warf er seine Frau über Bord)

Beter is beter, sä de jung, dor streue he sik noch Sucker op sin Sirupsbrot.
(Hooch: Besser ist besser, sagte der Junge und streute sich noch Zucker auf sein Sirupbrot.)

Da doatse in Möster kien Fester um loss.
(Hooch: Da machen sie in Münster kein Fenster für auf. --> Das interessiert keinen]

..ik hoof doch dat die gutte Lüü vun Münster dorför een Fenster apen maaken.

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After dealing with the problem of the Lord's prayer in Low German I have spent some time on other aspects this language, which according to the Low G Wikipedia has a bewildering array of dialects, which to complicate things even more are connected to Dutch and Afrikaans on onee side and to a similar array of dialects spoken in the western part of Germany (plus Luxemburg). In such a situation it is necessary to establish some sort of consensus about the ortography, and the most likely candidate is the one put together by Sass, which also is the standard chosen by the Low German Wikipedia. This won't stop native speakers from writing as they please, but for learners it is ncessary to have something stable to build on. Though I still haven't learnt how to spell properly myself.

I quote a few proverbs from the homepage www.deutsch-plattdeutsch.de, which also has an online dictionary which may be a useful supplement to my small but trusted mini-Sass. But too many words are missing. I tried "speziell" and got two answers, both because of an explanation of totally different words which accidentally used the word:

German: dünnes Getränk, speziell dünner Kaffee --> Platt: Plürr
German: Pisse, Urin (speziell bei Katzen) ---> Platt: Miech

And for once my mini-Sass let me down: it doesn't list the German word "speziell"


Edited by Iversen on 12 December 2009 at 9:29pm

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 Message 1566 of 3959
12 December 2009 at 9:22pm | IP Logged 
DK: Hej Iversen, nu kan jeg kigge pa dansk fjernsyn i internet!!!

(Ik moest wel eerst de Silverlight plugin installeren.)

Dansk fjernsyn: http://www.nordjyske.dk/webtv/forside.aspx

Dejligt!!!

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Edited by Fasulye on 12 December 2009 at 9:29pm

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 Message 1567 of 3959
12 December 2009 at 9:36pm | IP Logged 
Sehr schön, - dort wirst du Dänisch vom Norden Jütlands hören! Andere dänische Zeitungen haben auch videoclips oder 'Fernsehen' oder Web-TV, z.B. Jyllandsposten , Ekstrabladet und Berlingske Tidende.
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 Message 1568 of 3959
12 December 2009 at 10:11pm | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
Sehr schön, - dort wirst du Dänisch vom Norden Jütlands hören! Andere dänische Zeitungen haben auch videoclips oder 'Fernsehen' oder Web-TV, z.B. Jyllandsposten , Ekstrabladet und Berlingske Tidende.


GER: Super, das bietet mir ganz neue Möglichkeiten. So kann ich mich mal mit dem authentischen native level dieser Sprache vertraut machen. So sehr viel verstehe ich noch nicht, aber das wird sich im Laufe des nächsten Jahres noch ändern. Ich werde jetzt noch mit vielen Wörtern konfrontiert, die ich noch nie gehört habe. Wenn ich mehr bekannten Wortschatz habe, dann werde ich mir vieles aus dem Zusammenhang erschließen können.

Fasulye

Edited by Fasulye on 12 December 2009 at 10:23pm



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