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Meelämmchen
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 Message 2257 of 3959
21 February 2011 at 9:29am | IP Logged 
Iversen, I wanted to say after having seen your youtube channel, your German is very good, you also seem to have quite a large active vocabulary. Furthermore, your remarks on Low German made much sense, as far as I can say.
Well, and mass hysteria was certainly not only a product of the medieval age. It's scaring to see what all has happened during reformation and counter reformation. But the medieval age was not enlightened either, just as back then the crusades practically invented the pogrom.
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 Message 2258 of 3959
21 February 2011 at 1:08pm | IP Logged 
Mir freut besonders, daß Meelämmchen auch mein Video in Platt gehört habe - ich habe mit etlichen eingeborenen Norddeutschen gesprochen, die Platt gar nicht verstehen konnten (und da spreche ich nicht von diejenigen, die meine Version davon nicht hätten verstehen können, wenn sie sie gehört hätten).

Ich möchte übrigens auf eine philologische Besonderkeit die Aufmerksamkeit hinleiten, nähmlich daß Schafe und Lämmer auch in Dänisch "mæh" sagen - trotzdem sagt man gleich häufig (oder selten) "mæhlam" und "bæhlam"... und davon gibt's keine Diminutivformen.

I wouldn't say that the crusaders invented progroms - I know of progroms that dated back to the earliest historical times, long before the crusades. What you can say is that the barbarian hordes known as crusaders murdered and stolen and looted everybody and everything within sight in Palestina, and if you want to see that period as dark then they supply you with a good argument. But then you could also define our own era as pitch dark and a crime against humanity.

Edited by Iversen on 21 February 2011 at 2:35pm

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 Message 2260 of 3959
21 February 2011 at 2:10pm | IP Logged 
Kuikentje wrote:
What means meelämmchen? I suppose that it's Low German for little lamb? It's very cute!!! I love the lambs.
Here's a cute black nose lamb:



Iversen, wie sind die Diminutivformen auf Dänisch?


Wir haben sehr wenige Diminutivformen, - vielleicht weil sie mit unseren nachgehängten Artikeln kollidieren würden. Stattdessen benutzen wir Adjektiven.

We have very few diminutives in Danish, - maybe because they would collide with our postclitic definite articles. In their place we use adjectives (which are prepositioned).



Edited by Iversen on 14 September 2011 at 1:05am

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 Message 2262 of 3959
21 February 2011 at 3:37pm | IP Logged 
Kuikentje wrote:
Danke für die Erklärung. Ich erinnere mich, dass du Fasulye erzählt hast über den nachgehängten Artikeln im Dänischen. Es scheint mir aber fremd auf einer Germanischen Sprache, mehr etwas für Hungarisch, nicht Dänisch. Hungarisch kenne ich überhaupt nicht, ich weiß nur, dass es ganz anders ist.
Thanks for explaining. I remember that you told fasulye about the postclitic definite articles, it's a weird thing for a Germanic language I think, it seems something for Hungarian not Danish. I don't know Hungarian at all, I know only that it's completely different


RO: Atunci şi este ciudat pentru o limbă romanică de a le avea, dar le-a limba română

Then it is also strange for a Romanic language to have them, but Romanian has got them - in spite of its mostly postpositioned adjectives. And Bulgarian: книгата (the books). And Albanian, which Wikipedia even blames for this trait in other Balkan languages, - for instance the town name "Tirana" is effectively the definite form of "Tiranë".

But Hungarian ain't got'm. The definite and indefinite articles of Hungarian are prepositioned free words as in English.

Edited by Iversen on 14 September 2011 at 1:06am

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Meelämmchen
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 Message 2263 of 3959
21 February 2011 at 9:01pm | IP Logged 
Oh, a lamb in Danish is "mæhlam", yes? Meelämmchen is actually, I suppose it to be, an old German word, outdated today. Maybe it was never common and was only a poetic word. I got it from the beautiful poem of the same name. So in German it is: Mee ('speaking' sound) - lamb - diminutive. But it has nothing to do with Low German. Anyway, it is nice to see in Danish the Mee is part of the actual word, but obviously it's a version of the word lamb not too often used, if I understood it correctly.
That lamb on the picture is outstanding cute. Die kleine Glocke und als ob es Knieschützer tragen würde...

Well, well, not invented, I know, there were a lot of pogroms before (but doesn't this word especially refers to the medieval pogroms?). Yet the crusaders not only started their 'work' in Palestine. But you know that. The whole history I think is actually a dark age, but the medieval age probably was a period when there shone especially few light.

Edited by Meelämmchen on 21 February 2011 at 9:04pm

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