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 Message 609 of 3959
03 April 2009 at 5:43pm | IP Logged 
VISITE AUX PAYS-BAS POUR LES "STERRENKIJKDAGEN"

FR: Ici à Nijmegen aux Pays-Bas il fait beau temps, donc le soleil brille. Ce soir et demain soir nous allons au club d'astronomie "Saturnus" pour l'observation des étoiles.J'ai ammené mon binocle et les membres du club installeront leurs téléscopes. Aussi il y auront des conférences d'astronomie pour un public général en néerlandais, mais pour mon ami et moi les informations seront déjà connus, parce que c'est un niveau de base d'astronomie. Certainement les membres du club me receveront de nouveau avec les mots "We krijgen weer bezoek uit Duitsland," comme ils l'ont fait les années dernières. Cette année se sont le cinquièmes "Sterrenkijkdagen" pour nous ensembles.

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Hier haben wir das gleiche Wetter: Sonne und warm. Viel Spaß beim Saturnus Verein wünsche ich euch.


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 Message 611 of 3959
03 April 2009 at 11:00pm | IP Logged 
After I returned back home I haven't had much time for language studies, not least because I was met with a task at my job which has taken quite a long time, and I have also had to organize my phiotos from the trip. However included in the task I mentioned there was a lot of trivial looking things up in a datafile, and I didn't need much brain capacity for that so I could safely listen to some clips on youtube while doing it.

I started out with Steve Kaufmann, who committed himself wholeheartedly to the theories of Krashen, the guru of learning languages without dictionaries and grammars. From there through a few minutes of Chomsky to lectures about language and brain physiology, where I would like to mention a one hour long lecture by Jeff Elman. It didn't tell me anything startling new and unknown, but was a good non-technologic introduction to the subject. I noticed one thing: in Kenya there are two tribes right beside each other.One tribe doesn't find it worthwhile to talk to babies less than one year old, while parents from the other babbled incessantly with their babies and found that very important. In fact children from both tribes became proficient native speakers, so apparently it is enough to let babies hear a lot of talk without spreaking directly to them. Another interesting example was the one of a person who only could say one word, namely "tono", but he was able to recite the numbers from 1 and up to at least a score, - after that he reverted to his single word,. This shows that such over-authomized parts of language don't function as nomal language, but rather as 'behaviours' that rely on other language centers than Wernicke's and Brocka's.

Finally I ended up listening to clips about savants (people like Tammett), where the general message was that they used other brain structures to process language than just Wernicke's and Broca's areas, such as for instance the structures that normally take care of face recognition. Besides, the amazing memory of a select few among the autists was explained as a result of a lacking function: a normal person who hears something will tend to rationalized and summarize the content, and it seems that this process more or less destroys the original thought. However at least some autists don't have the ability to compress and rationalize a content, and therefore the things they hear and say aren't spoiled, but instead they are stored in an almost unaltered version. However it should not be forgotten that all this only applies to a very small percentage of autists, - the great majority of them aren't savants.


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04 April 2009 at 12:24am | IP Logged 
Servus alle

Ich bin noch lebendig! Dieser Thread wird immer besser und laenger
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Servus Recht

willkommen zurück. Wie geht's?
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 Message 614 of 3959
04 April 2009 at 10:02am | IP Logged 
Iversen wrote:
I started out with Steve Kaufmann, who committed himself wholeheartedly to the theories of Krashen, the guru of learning languages without dictionaries and grammars. From there through a few minutes of Chomsky to lectures about language and brain physiology, where I would like to mention a one hour long lecture by Jeff Elman.


(from Nijmegen) Together with my friend I was listening to the university lecture of Jeffrey Ellman of the Department of Cognitive Science. I didn't know that even university lectures can be found on You Tube. The "University of California Television" offers lectures on other topics as well, I will test listen to others when I am back home again.

Yesterday evening I had the chance to do a bit of practical astronomy at the astronomy club Saturnus. Two club members had built up their mirror telscopes and I could watch the moon (200 times enlarged) and Saturn with only one of the four Galilean moons, because the weather was a bit misty. The sight of Saturn is special, because now there is the "Kantenstellung" (= in English?) of its rings and I could recognize that through the telescope. Stars were almost not visible on the sky, because there was a football match going on which caused a lot of extra lightpollution.

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 Message 615 of 3959
04 April 2009 at 3:42pm | IP Logged 
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
Hier haben wir das gleiche Wetter: Sonne und warm. Viel Spaß beim Saturnus Verein wünsche ich euch.


DE: Danke für die guten Wünsche! Heute, am Samstag, ist der Himmel schon den ganzen Tag mit Wolken bedeckt. Wir gehen heute Abend auf jeden Fall zum Astronomieclub, auch wenn es draußen nichts zu beobachten gibt.

NL: In Nederland en Vlaanderen bestaat een speciale boekenwinkel voor afgeprijzde nieuwe boeken (ze hebben daar ook 2e hands boeken) en daar heb ik vandaag het boek "Winkler Prins, @ncyclopedie van Dinosauriers" van 2006 gekocht. Ik wilde niet zoveel geld uitgeven en heb dit boek voor 5 EUR gekregen.

Het is een interactief boek wat gekoppeld is aan de bijbehorende website:
http://www.winklerprins.com/dinosauriers

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 Message 616 of 3959
04 April 2009 at 3:49pm | IP Logged 
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Finally I ended up listening to clips about savants (people like Tammett), where the general message was that they used other brain structures to process language than just Wernicke's and Brocka's areas, such as for instance the structures that normally take care of face recognition. Besides, the amazing memory of a select few among the autists was explained as a result of a lacking function: a normal person who hears something will tend to rationalized and summarize the content, and it seems that this process more or less destroyes the original thought. However at least some autists don't have the ability to compress and rationalize a content, and therefore the things they hear and say aren't spoiled, but instead they are stored in an almost unaltered version. However it should not be forgotten that all this only applies to a very small perentage of autists, - the great majority of them aren't savants.


I find the talents of savants also very interesting, I saw a whole TV documentary on "Phoenix" of this topic maybe two years ago.

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