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 Message 3753 of 3959
25 November 2014 at 12:09pm | IP Logged 
Luxemburg had een minister van Wijnbouw? Wine cultivation? Or do you mean mijnbouw
(mining)? Or landbouw (agriculture)? Because maybe I am wrong but Luxembourg is not known
for its exquisite red wines... Mijnbouw would make more sense probably :P
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 Message 3754 of 3959
25 November 2014 at 4:19pm | IP Logged 

Wäibauminister!
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 Message 3755 of 3959
25 November 2014 at 4:52pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:
Luxemburg had een minister van Wijnbouw? Wine cultivation? Or do you mean mijnbouw
(mining)? Or landbouw (agriculture)? Because maybe I am wrong but Luxembourg is not known
for its exquisite red wines... Mijnbouw would make more sense probably :P


Actually, Luxembourg has 1,237 hectares or 3,060 acres of wine-producing land in the Moselle valley. There is something called the « Marque Nationale-Appellation contrôlée de Luxembourg » which is controlled by the state, so quite likely they have a Ministry of Wine.

They mostly make dry white wines and sparkling wines just like in neighbouring Germany and down here in the Rhine valley. See here for more info about Luxembourg wine.
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26 November 2014 at 11:53am | IP Logged 
I stand corrected :)
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26 November 2014 at 4:44pm | IP Logged 
I just reread the Letzeburgian article about mr. Bech, and then I saw that the name for a lawyer ('advocaat' in Dutch) in that language is "Affekot".

Ich hätte dies auf Deutsch schreiben sollen.

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 Message 3758 of 3959
26 November 2014 at 4:48pm | IP Logged 
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I just reread the Letzeburgian article about mr. Bech, and then I saw that the name for a lawyer ('advocaat' in Dutch) in that language is "Affekot".

Ich hätte dies auf Deutsch schreiben sollen.

Priceless! :D
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 Message 3759 of 3959
27 November 2014 at 11:28am | IP Logged 
As I wrote on the preceding page I have at long last collected enough courage to open my big fat Corbett and Comrie book about the Slavonic languages. I have now read the long chapter about the ProtoSlavonic (reconstructed) language, where I actually understood a few things which have puzzled me in those of the modern languages which I have spent time studying - though more through the tables with related words in several modern languages than through the explanations, which are quite technical (they would have been totally incomprehensible without my course in phonetics forty years ago - now they are just murky, arcane and confusing). I have also read the chapter about Old Church Slavonic, though I skipped some parts - after all I'm not going to read old religious texts galore in the near future when I can study nuclear physics and paleontology instead.

One curious observation was that the relationship between the Glagolitic and Cyrillic isn't nearly as clearcut as I thought before I opened this book. It is actually possible that Cyrillus and Methodius expressed themselves in Glagolitic rather than in Cyrillic . In one place the term ”Cyrillic” is even called a misnomer because Mr. Cyrillus may have invented Glagolitic, but hardly the Cyrillic (if he invented any of them, that is). Both ultimately were derived from Greek writing, but Glagolitic apparently became confined to some areas in Croatia and later disappeared totally, whereas the Cyrillic alphabet(s). went on to conquer Russia, Ukraine and the Sourth half of the Slavonic-speaking Balkan. The Western Slavonic countries from Poland down to Croatia (and partly Serbia) adopted Latin alphabets with some changes, and all this is described in loving detail by the specialists working under the editorship of Comrie/Corbett.

Yesterday I peroused the first part of the description of Bu(l)garian, but it is hard to follow arguments about the phonology of a language you haven't heard for ages. Today I shall study the sections about morphology, which hopefully are easier to deal with.

BA I: Studi praktis bahasa saya kemarin difokuskan pada bahasa Indonesia dan Serbia, dalam kedua kasus kebanyakan dengan melakukan daftar kata. Aku sudah beberapa halaman salinan teks menunggu saya, yang belum dipindahkan ke daftar, tapi kemarin saya hampir ditangkap dengan berlalunya waktu, yang kini mencapai zaman Jura (apakah ditulis 'jurassic' dalam artikel, tapi itu mungkin resultat dari mesin terjemahan - Wikipedia menulis Jura (seperti dalam bahasa Denmark!)), tapi berita Wikipedia sangat pendek - tetapi lebih lama dari artikel di Wikipedia Luksemburg.

By the way, it is great fun to read about the same subject in several 'small' languages in Wikipedia - even if I don't intend to learn to use those variants actively.

Like..

Lëtzebuergesch: D'Period vum Jura ass déi mëttels Period aus dem Äerdmëttelalter. Si huet virun ongeféier 205 Millioune Joer ugefaangen a bis virun 145 Millioune Joer gedauert. Si steet am Zäitalter nom Trias a virun der Kräid (..)

Alemannisch: Dr Jura isch in dr Ärdgschicht s mittler chronostratigrafisch Syschtem (bzw. Periode in dr Geochronologii) vum Mesozoikum. Dr Jura fangt vor rund 199,6 Millione Johr aa un hert uf vor rund 145,5 Millione Johr. Dr Jura wird vou dr Trias unter- un vu dr Chryyde iberlageret.

Platt: De Jura is en geochronoloogsche Periood oder System vun de Eerdhistorie. Dormit warrt de middlere Periood vun dat Mesozoikum betekent, dat na’t Öllere hen vun de Trias un na’t Jüngere hen vun de Kried begrenzt warrt.

Limburgisch: 't Jura is 'n periood inne geologie (en e systeem inne stratigrafie) die doerdje van óngevieër 201,3 toet 145,0 miljoen jaor trögk (Ma). 't Jura is de twieëdje en middelste periood van 't era Mesozoïcum. 't Völg op 't Trias en wuuertj door 't Kriet.

Dutch: Het Jura is een periode in de geologie (en een systeem in de stratigrafie) die duurde van ongeveer 201,3 tot 145,0 miljoen jaar geleden (Ma). Het Jura is de tweede en middelste periode van het era Mesozoïcum. Het volgt op het Trias en wordt opgevolgd door het Krijt.

Afrikaans: Die Jura is ’n geologiese periode van die Mesosoïese Era en strek van die einde van die Trias sowat 201,3 miljoen jaar gelede tot die begin van die Kryt sowat 145 miljoen jaar gelede.

Hochdeutsch: Der Jura ist in der Erdgeschichte das mittlere chronostratigraphische System (bzw. Periode in der Geochronologie) des Mesozoikums. Der Jura begann vor etwa 201,3 Millionen Jahren und endete vor etwa 145 Millionen Jahren. Er dauerte somit ca. 56,3 Millionen Jahre. Der Jura wird von der Trias unter- und von der Kreide überlagert.

Unfortunately the Frisians haven't written about the Jurassic yet, but here is a passage from the Frysk article about fossils: Yn it Trias, likernôch 250 oant 210 miljoen jier lyn, sieten alle kontininten noch oan inoar fêst yn it oerkontinint Pangea. (...) Yn it Jura, 210 oant 240 miljoen jier lyn, begûn Pangea útinoar te skowen wêrtroch de kontininten ûntstienen. ...) Yn it Kryt, 140 oant 65 miljoen jier lyn, wienen de kontininten fan inoar skieden

I have also tried to find a replica in Swiss German, but it seems that there is a hole in the coverage here - no Wikipedia in Swiss German. There are some indications that the devious Helvetians have used the Alemannic Wikipedia as a secret hiding subterfuge, but why? Every has heard about the glorious Swiss and their cheeses, clocks and money mountains, but Alemannic?? BAh! The irony of this is that the Jurassic has been named after a Swiss mountain range.

Edited by Iversen on 27 November 2014 at 12:08pm

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 Message 3760 of 3959
27 November 2014 at 12:07pm | IP Logged 
The Swiss German is treated as a part of the Alemannische Wikipedia, together with Badisch, Elsassisch and Schwäbisch. I couldn't find another text in Swiss German about the Jurassic apart from the one you already referred to.


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